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		<title>By: John </title>
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		<dc:creator>John </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Has anyone heard anything about Xi&#039;an Jiaotong-Liverpool University? It&#039;s one of the few university&#039;s in China whose degrees are technically from a western University. I&#039;m very interested in studying there if anybody happens to have any information on it. Thanks!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone heard anything about Xi&#8217;an Jiaotong-Liverpool University? It&#8217;s one of the few university&#8217;s in China whose degrees are technically from a western University. I&#8217;m very interested in studying there if anybody happens to have any information on it. Thanks!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Olivia Allan </title>
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		<dc:creator>Olivia Allan </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 05:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dear John,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am Olivia, after reading your post i am now more interested in learning the chinese economy. I want to take Master of Art in Chinese Economy so please give more comments about it. and is it hard to get it not Master of Chinese economy program?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear John,</p>

<p>I am Olivia, after reading your post i am now more interested in learning the chinese economy. I want to take Master of Art in Chinese Economy so please give more comments about it. and is it hard to get it not Master of Chinese economy program?</p>

<p>Thanks</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bodawei </title>
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		<dc:creator>Bodawei </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 00:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting topic John - thanks.  The diverse responses are interesting too.  (I teach economics at a Chinese university.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am kind of intrigued about what &#039;Chinese Economics&#039; is. Strange title for a degree, but I am used to incomprehensible English translations for the courses I teach.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On the point about freedom of expression, there are no limits placed on material or areas for discussion.  The surveillance cameras on the wall don&#039;t work.  :-)  In any case my students tend to be more &#039;right wing&#039; than me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are quite a few foreigners studying here but I don&#039;t think that the universities are particularly well set-up to serve say an Australian or American student, unless your interest is language and culture.   A degree in teaching Chinese language at a neighbouring university is popular with foreigners.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I tend to agree that the main purpose (regardless of the student&#039;s intentions) would be to more fully experience Chinese culture. And of course the contacts will be invaluable.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for the the value of the economics teaching - it depends on the particular course, the lecturers, the teaching method, quality of other students etc.  As it does in the West. As we learn in economics, you generally get what you pay for.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting topic John &#8211; thanks.  The diverse responses are interesting too.  (I teach economics at a Chinese university.)</p>

<p>I am kind of intrigued about what &#8216;Chinese Economics&#8217; is. Strange title for a degree, but I am used to incomprehensible English translations for the courses I teach.</p>

<p>On the point about freedom of expression, there are no limits placed on material or areas for discussion.  The surveillance cameras on the wall don&#8217;t work.  <img src='http://www.sinosplice.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   In any case my students tend to be more &#8216;right wing&#8217; than me.</p>

<p>There are quite a few foreigners studying here but I don&#8217;t think that the universities are particularly well set-up to serve say an Australian or American student, unless your interest is language and culture.   A degree in teaching Chinese language at a neighbouring university is popular with foreigners.</p>

<p>I tend to agree that the main purpose (regardless of the student&#8217;s intentions) would be to more fully experience Chinese culture. And of course the contacts will be invaluable.</p>

<p>As for the the value of the economics teaching &#8211; it depends on the particular course, the lecturers, the teaching method, quality of other students etc.  As it does in the West. As we learn in economics, you generally get what you pay for.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Wilson </title>
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		<dc:creator>Wilson </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Lee, you do speak truth in your response, jaded, but pretty accurate. Just like Zachary&#039;s final paragraph comments about no trade-offs, just depends on the individual person and personality/upbrining type whether they see certain aspects as pros/cons. I think Lee hits upon the &quot;forever&quot; versus &quot;temporary hiatus/expatriate&quot; vibe with his analogy about the billionaire. Back on topic, great series John, and discussion good or bad will add value to a Chinese degree.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee, you do speak truth in your response, jaded, but pretty accurate. Just like Zachary&#8217;s final paragraph comments about no trade-offs, just depends on the individual person and personality/upbrining type whether they see certain aspects as pros/cons. I think Lee hits upon the &#8220;forever&#8221; versus &#8220;temporary hiatus/expatriate&#8221; vibe with his analogy about the billionaire. Back on topic, great series John, and discussion good or bad will add value to a Chinese degree.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: lee </title>
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		<dc:creator>lee </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I like your blog, but I think Americans
who get a degree in China are wasting their time. Chinese
degrees are not valued in the US. Just about the only jobs 
Americans who have degrees from Chinese colleges can do are either teaching Chinese in the USA or teaching English in China. Foreigners with degrees from Chinese colleges will be competing with Chinese graduates and Chinese wages. Native English speakers might get paid more, but not a lot.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;China is getting richer, but I do not see a long-term future for most foreigners. Foreigners in China cannot own cars or houses in their own name and not even Chinese can own land. China is crowded, dirty, and rude. Clothes stores have poor selection and only sell clothes that are
either counterfeit, poor quality, too small, or too expensive. The weather is cold and most places don&#039;t
have heaters.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am sorry, but Americans who plan to live in China forever make as much sense as billionaires who give
away their money to live as bums.  You can find the best countries in the world by looking at the nations with the immigration rates. Do more people want to immigrate to North Korea or Canada? The USA is the richest and most free country in the world. China is a third-world Communist country. Other than the girls, I don&#039;t know why any foreigner would want to live there.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your blog, but I think Americans
who get a degree in China are wasting their time. Chinese
degrees are not valued in the US. Just about the only jobs 
Americans who have degrees from Chinese colleges can do are either teaching Chinese in the USA or teaching English in China. Foreigners with degrees from Chinese colleges will be competing with Chinese graduates and Chinese wages. Native English speakers might get paid more, but not a lot.</p>

<p>China is getting richer, but I do not see a long-term future for most foreigners. Foreigners in China cannot own cars or houses in their own name and not even Chinese can own land. China is crowded, dirty, and rude. Clothes stores have poor selection and only sell clothes that are
either counterfeit, poor quality, too small, or too expensive. The weather is cold and most places don&#8217;t
have heaters.</p>

<p>I am sorry, but Americans who plan to live in China forever make as much sense as billionaires who give
away their money to live as bums.  You can find the best countries in the world by looking at the nations with the immigration rates. Do more people want to immigrate to North Korea or Canada? The USA is the richest and most free country in the world. China is a third-world Communist country. Other than the girls, I don&#8217;t know why any foreigner would want to live there.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Antoine </title>
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		<dc:creator>Antoine </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So interesting. What I can add concerning &quot;The Invasion&quot;: The german government proactively encourages it&#039;s students to spend at least a year at a Chinese University.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The state-funded German Academic Exchange Service (DAAD) has a decent budget to support those willing to go with very generous scholarships, and they aren&#039;t even all that hard to get.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Interestingly enough, in a promotion film published recently, the DAAD showed happy German students telling what a great experience it is to study in China. Not one of the protagonists was from a Social Sciences Department (let alone Sinology) but mostly engineers.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In a private conversation I was told, that the goal of such promotional activies is in fact to spark interest in obtaining an advanced degree at a Chinese university.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So I guess there seems to be a trend towards internationally recognizing Chinese degrees.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So interesting. What I can add concerning &#8220;The Invasion&#8221;: The german government proactively encourages it&#8217;s students to spend at least a year at a Chinese University.</p>

<p>The state-funded German Academic Exchange Service (DAAD) has a decent budget to support those willing to go with very generous scholarships, and they aren&#8217;t even all that hard to get.</p>

<p>Interestingly enough, in a promotion film published recently, the DAAD showed happy German students telling what a great experience it is to study in China. Not one of the protagonists was from a Social Sciences Department (let alone Sinology) but mostly engineers.</p>

<p>In a private conversation I was told, that the goal of such promotional activies is in fact to spark interest in obtaining an advanced degree at a Chinese university.</p>

<p>So I guess there seems to be a trend towards internationally recognizing Chinese degrees.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: East Asia Blog Roundup : 14/3/2010 &#171; Eye on East Asia </title>
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		<dc:creator>East Asia Blog Roundup : 14/3/2010 &#171; Eye on East Asia </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Sinosplice &#8211; John interviews Zachary Franklin and asks him about the value of a Master&#8217;s degree in Chinese Economics. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Chris </title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 10:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hence the scholarships.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Ray Walsh </title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Walsh </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 06:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@ Zachary...
the invasion is coming? I&#039;m highly dubious of that comment. 100,000 American citizens studying in China in the next four years? How is that possible? I highly doubt 100,000 Americans could pass the HSK and if it&#039;s a subject taught in English that is not China related it&#039;s not going to be valued in a competitive U.S job market. 
Americans are in general smart and savvy - so if the degree cost less to do in China ( a pro) but is of little value to employers (a big, big con) I doubt we will be seeing the invasion. 
I even doubt we would see the invasion if courses were offered for free and the school will pay for your flight.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Zachary&#8230;
the invasion is coming? I&#8217;m highly dubious of that comment. 100,000 American citizens studying in China in the next four years? How is that possible? I highly doubt 100,000 Americans could pass the HSK and if it&#8217;s a subject taught in English that is not China related it&#8217;s not going to be valued in a competitive U.S job market. 
Americans are in general smart and savvy &#8211; so if the degree cost less to do in China ( a pro) but is of little value to employers (a big, big con) I doubt we will be seeing the invasion. 
I even doubt we would see the invasion if courses were offered for free and the school will pay for your flight.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: DeluxZilla </title>
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		<dc:creator>DeluxZilla </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This was the professor&#039;s opinion.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was the professor&#8217;s opinion.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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